Tea Party Violence Must Stop!
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.........why so violent............
Before and After the Gifford incident in Arizona, Liberals continue the drum beat about right wing violence! But; they never seem to produce examples. When they do, it turns out to be a liberal! In 2009 the left thought they finally had something they could blame the right for! Remember the Holocaust Museum shooting where a black security guard was killed? The media went wild claiming that the shooter was a birther and birthers were always nut case conservatives! (funny I thought birthers were flaming liberals), anyway, turns out the shooter James Brunn, was a typical leftist idiot who raged against the Bush administration, and all neoconservatives on his web site.... that AOL wants to purchase for over 300 million!
The Liberals got excited again when Joseph Stack ran his plane into an IRS building down in Texas! (he surely was a conservative) NOPE! One of "them" again! Joseph turned out to be a marxist!
The left acts as though they have seen a ghost when the Tea Party arrives on the scene! Seems those signs reading, "Taxed Enough Already" create a fear most have never witnessed! Liberals believe all those late to middle aged people in nice clothes with well behaved children standing around, are a bunch of bad-asses secretly holding weapons behind their umbrellas, and guns behind their copies of the constitution!
Note to all Liberals: we MUST get these radical Tea Partiers under control! Just as soon as we clean up the violence from your side we will get right on it!
Aug 6th, Mr. Gladney, a conservative black handing out pens and buttons, was punched in the face by union thugs yelling racial slurs! They wanted to know what kinda nigger he was? All six union thugs were members of the SEIU!.........and of course Democrat!
September 3, 2009, Bill Rice, 65 years of age was at a town hall meeting speaking against Obamacare and had his FINGER bitten off by an Obama supporter! Yes! I said his finger bitten off!
We must understand these horrible Tea Partiers even more if we are to close down their little shop of hate and violence! Chris Matthews described them as suspiciously well dressed! When that didn't get the FBI to look into them, Liberals resorted to calling them a dangerous mob! Senator Reid called them "evil mongers"; he said it twice in case you didn't hear the first time! And lest we not forget the great wisdom overflowing from Nancy Pelosi, her article to the USA Today called them "unamerican"...............Keep watch folks those Tea Partiers could be anywhere!!! ooooooaaaahhahaaha
No TP has ever sneaked into a Democratic National Convention and heckled speakers. No conservative has ever thrown food, liberals do this repeatedly! No conservative has ever demonstrated outside a private citizen's home! This is done on a regular basis by the left! Duke lacrosse players, AIG workers, and even the terrified young boy who was home alone as 14 bus loads of union thugs trompled and destroyed the lawn of 2 Bank of America officers property! (shows the lack of loyality among liberals, Both had worked for the Clinton admin)
Over 200 years of American history and every single shooting of a Washington politician has been commited by either a liberal or in a few cases, someone who was just a few marbles off. Funny how none of these were commited by conservatives! Over 12 assassination attempts have been commited by left wingers in our history! Score for conservatives- 0!
Liberals love to say conservatives killed those at abortion clinics. If this is true, then they were condemned by the right! In the Liberal world, killers are made heroes and university professors! (see Bill Airs and Bernadine) ...........And, if we are keeping score of deaths committed by either side in the abortion debate, I have the score for you: Accused Right, 8 deaths, Proven Leftist, 53 million babies! .............I don't think there is need for more discussion on this subject!
Liberals take everything out of context! (this may explain why they don't understand the bible). Had just one single liberal, or left leaning media outlet, done their homework, they would have on record Sarah Palin, one YEAR before Giffords shooting, speaking at a rally these exact words........" When we say take up arms , we're talking about our vote! We're talking about being involved in a contested primary like this and picking the right candidate!" ..........kinda takes the sting out of those from the left seeking the AhHa moment from the right!
Of course we have nothing to fear now that President Obama told Americans we needed a softer tone in this country. No need to mention that only a week later Eric Fuller who had been shot in the leg during the Gifford incident became enraged at a suggestion by a Tea Partier that this incident should not be politicized. Mr. Fuller was hauled off screaming, "You're Dead!" Fuller continued yelling to the crowd, "what's wrong with you whores"!
And then a month later, during the union strikes in Wisconsin, Democratic assemblyman and prostitute frequenter Gordon Hintz was recorded yelling at Republican Michelle Litjens "You are F%#king DEAD! ...........I think most conservatives would prefer you just put crosshairs on our district maps instead!
MSNBC accused Tea Partiers of burning Tom Perriello in effigy, ...........This is a lie! One guy thought it would be funny and suggested it. The Tea Party denounced the act and it never happened! I repeat; it NEVER happened! Yes, a lone Tea Partier wanted to do it, ONE, that number out of the thousands of Tea Partiers in case you didn't write it down is (1) Single, not plural, .............just one! Oh and did I mention it NEVER happened?
For the history books, Alan Grayson is the man behind accusing Tea Partiers of inciting violence after Gifford was shot. For those who don't know, Grayson is remembered for his "Taliban Dan" commercial concerning his congressional opponent, Daniel Webster. Grayson edited Webster's remarks to precisely reverse their meaning. Webster had told a men's church group to pick a verse from the Bible that required something of themselves. He said don't pick the ones that say "she should submit to me". Graysons campaign took those words and played them over and over so all you heard was Webster saying "she should submit to me"..................Liberals enjoy lies more than truth! ...........maybe it's the only way they can win elections? Kinda reminds you of Obama storming around the country the last few days in his multimillion dollar buses, (built in Canada), screaming, "This is all caused by Bush and Christopher Columbus!................notice he can't seem to run on merit?
When ex congressman Paul Kanjorski of Pennsylvania wrote a column for the NY Times calling for an atmosphere of civility and respect, seems he seriously contradicted himself just one month earlier when he called for Rick Scott of Florida to be shot. Mr. Kanjorski said, "instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him! Put him against the wall and shoot him".................That sounds like toxic rhetoric to me?
I have a folder over 1 inch thick with acts of violence from the left! I believe it shows a deep, seething hatred for all that is good about America! I am sick of being the one accused when it always turns into lies! I am sick of Rhetoric by the left! Time to call them out and have them dance to the fiddler! America will change! We will change by showing our true feelings of hate and disgust for all those things that make us great!
For those who don't undersand what is going on in this country remember only a few things before you vote!
We have 50 million people on food stamps!.............that is 20 million more than when Bush was president!
We have over 1000 NEW regulations that will force business to move overseas!
Obama had TWO years of complete control with NO opposition and still blames the Republicans!
Liberals are ALL fanatics with no sense of truth, fact, or integrity! Therefore, they cannot be trusted and need to be relieved of their jobs!
Together, and with a little history reminder once in a while, America will flourish once again!
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I'm with ya brother!! Well said, and needs to be heard....and I agree....America WILL fourish once again!!
Little by little Independents are realizing the lies. And beginning to see the truth of what's become of the democratic party. Now the republicans need to nominate someone they'll vote for - and I think that someone is the person who will fight back and tell it like it is.
You are the MAN!!! Very well put. Very well spoken. You hit the nail on the head, and I am now a follower of yours, keep up the excellent work.
Liberals need to bite their tongues instead of other people's fingers. Anyone, who after nearly three years of Obama rule, can still back Obama is either daft or sucking hard on the government teat.
I'm sure thaere are some far-out, violent conservatives out there, but you are quite correct that despite all their rhetoric to the contrary, most violence around the world is committed by the left.
The other culprit is radical Islam, a group that the left has decided to champion, so when we are having accusations of violence from the left, radical Muslims are the giant elephant in the living room they never mention.
I found this hub very useful and informative, as well as interesting. I believe it! My Mom always says...since the act on 9-11, the demons have been released on America's shores. I do not want a dictator for president and believe the media sides too much with the democratic-left winged liberals. They tend to get what they want too often, with violence and threats as their hidden companion.
You have got to be kidding me!
Let's just throw a few in there to be brief:
Eric Rudolph - bombing Olympics
Paul Britton - abortion doctor murderer
Michael Frederick Griffin - abortion doctor murderer
John C Salvi - abortion doctor murderer
Charles Allan Dyer - arrested for rape
James Charles Kopp - abortion doctor murderer
Bruce Turnidge and son - thought Obama was going to take away their guns, so they pack up for murder
Scott Roeder - abortion doctor murderer
Richard Poplowski - thought Obama was taking away his gun rights, so he murdered people
Jim David Adkinson - wanted to murder "liberals and Democrats"
The MoveOn worker thrown down and stomped at a Rand Paul rally in Lexington, KY
Byron Williams - sought out to kill ACLU workers
Charles Allan Wilson - threatened to kill Sen. Pat Murray
The Hutaree militia
James von Braun - holocaust museum murderer
Shawna Ford and the Minutemen who murdered a man and his 9 yr old little girl
According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid ("stink bombs").
The New York Times also cites over one hundred clinic bombings and incidents of arson, over three hundred invasions, and over four hundred incidents of vandalism between 1978 and 1993. The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio.
December 25, 1984: An abortion clinic and two physicians' offices in Pensacola, Florida were bombed in the early morning of Christmas Day by a quartet of young people (Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins) who later called the bombings "a gift to Jesus on his birthday."
May 21, 1998: Three people were injured when acid was poured at the entrances of five abortion clinics in Miami, Florida.
October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, causing US$100 worth of damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison.
May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire resulted in several thousand dollars' worth of damage. The case remains unsolved. This was the second arson at the clinic.
September 30, 2000: John Earl, a Catholic priest, drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an ax before being forced to the ground by the owner of the building who fired two warning shots from a shotgun.
June 11, 2001: An unsolved bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington destroyed a wall, resulting in US$6000 in damages.
July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida was the target of an arson. The case remains open.
December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year. Hughes claimed the bomb was a “memorial lamp” for an abortion she had had there.
September 13, 2006 David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan crashed his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and then started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions, however Edgerton is not an abortion clinic.
April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device after evacuating the building. Paul Ross Evans (who had a criminal record for armed robbery and theft) was found guilty of the crime.
May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
December 6, 2007: Chad Altman and Sergio Baca were arrested for the arson of Dr. Curtis Boyd's clinic in Albuquerque. Altman’s girlfriend had scheduled an appointment for an abortion at the clinic.
January 22, 2009 Matthew L. Derosia, 32, who was reported to have had a history of mental illness rammed a SUV into the front entrance of a Planned Parenthood clinic in St. Paul, Minnesota.
I am hardly touching all of the Klan and Neo Nazi violence...which ARE right wingers. Threats? Do you want me to list all of those right wingers who are arrested over threats of violence?
You justify murdering doctors in your post...claiming the murder of babies. Well, murder has a definition, and abortion doesn't fit it, by definition...so you are justifying murder for your political ideals. You are scummy sir, a shameful example of what is wrong with this land.
TP, you gave us names, just because a person attacks someone of a party or political spectrum does not mean he is a conservative, Again you gave us names, I can prove mine were liberals by what they wrote and did, You mentioned nothing of this? Besides I acknowledged the abortion clinics, Keeping in mind we conservatives condemed them, You liberals make them part of the white house and professors of our children, see Bill Airs and Bernadine!...........Your still losing, tell us about the people and why you think they were conservatives like us? Oh and BTW, I have many many more if you need them and I can provide their backgrounds to prove they came from your side!
In case you forgot I even gave you the score on abortion clinics, Conservatives 8 Liberals killing babies 53 MILLION!
Texasbeta,
All of your supposed conservatives were small potatoes, at best. They killed how many?...less than 100?
Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, all of whom called themselves socialists and Marxists, murdered an estimated 200,000,000.
BTW, the Klan members were all Democrats, like Robert Byrd.
AR - Really? Prove to me that McVeigh was a liberal. I'll wait. Go ahead with the other guy too. I can give you as many exact statements that are conservative as much as liberal. The fact is, you are dishonest and not man enough to admit anything. You listed a couple and stated conservatives are in the clear. You are proven wrong...and you ignore. Again dude, nothing but shame.
Will - What a JOKE! Take note folks - the very party who claims to be about responsibility DOES NOT have the ability to own up to a SINGLE THING, ever.
Will- Hitler rounded up communists and socialists BEFORE he rounded up Jews. It is in any WW2 textbook you buy, anywhere. Because they had "socialist" in the name, does not mean they were leftists. In fact, they had absolutely nothing whatsoever in their policies that resembles leftists causes aside from banning smoking.
Stalin and Mao? Ask any liberal if they support Stalin or Mao? Ask any of them.
You support the causes of these murderers; you don't condemn them, you say, "So what! You guys killed people!", and then screw up listing examples.
Klansmen? First of all, you are being either ignorant or dishonest. I think, considering it is you, that it is both.
Southern Democrats back when the Klan was started were a part, as was incredible numbers throughout the entire country. That was in the 20s. During the New Deal and then the Civil Rights movements, your party was created by revolting southern Democrats (like Reagan) who left the party of desegregation. It wasn't a Democrat who filibustered, it was Republican Strom Thurmond. Now, go on youtube and find absolutely ANY Klan video, OR Neo Nazi video...and find me ONE single example of them stating ANYTHING that even RESEMBLES something supporting a liberal policy or candidate. I'll wait. I know you won't do it, because you are probably in some of them.
You conservatives, always talking about responsibility and NEVER owning up to ANYTHING. You are the whiniest bunch I have ever seen. Christine O'Donnell gets asked questions that are IN HER BOOK, on a show where she is PROMOTING HER BOOK, and she says is borders on sexual harassment. Gingrich gets asked simple questions about his own campaign and they are "gotcha questions." Bachmann hates taxes but was a tax attorney for the IRS, an organization she wants to eliminate. She hates government handouts but takes them as quickly as she can get them. Your entire party is the least responsible and mature group this country has ever seen. You bring shame and disgrace to this land and what it stands for.
Wow! What a rant!
I'll let the readers decide who is reasonable and who is...well...you.
I'm with Will, TB as usual we are done here! Go tweet all 3 of your friends and let them know you took the big talking, right wing conservatives down! Then wade through your hoard of Star Wars dolls, feed your 9 ft rock python you got from an asian dude in college, Maybe hit the pipe a couple of times, ..........then just sit back on your bean bag you've owned since 6th grade, and pretend that cashier at the grocery store really likes you!.........maybe fantasize about saving money to get that 1 big black tooth replaced someday, and how hot she will be then..................
Like always...you disregard points, won't fess up when proven wrong, act like little kids. Your kids are real proud.
TB, I gave you points, you gave me accusations? what more do you want? If someone kills or attacks another it does not denote what political party they are from, unless you can somehow prove it, OR they have proven it themselves, end of story,
While I cannot answer about the names above. We know historically that Militias are basically extremely far right organizations. Tim McViegh was a strong supporter of militias. One can connect the dots.
interesting comment, very good homework, ........only one problem, militias have NEVER been known to do harm to others or have violent acts, ............by the way? how do we know militias are basically extremely far right organizations??? We know some of them are racist, we know some of them do not believe in God, but when I think of them, I think of skin heads, where or what group would anyone put them in? Liberals automatically put them in the "right" I have never heard how skin heads vote, have you?..........union thugs and welfare blacks vote Democrat!
American Romance, this is the best Hub on the topic I've seen to date.
My favorite line: "Chris Matthews described them as suspiciously well dressed!"
Good thing Chris hasn't met me. I've seldom been accused of THAT.
A note or two on the Giffords shooting: I'd written a number of anti-Gabby Hubs in 2010, supporting (until he bowed out of the primary race) conservative Brian Miller for the Arizona CD8 Republican nomination. In all of them, the focus was on Gabrielle's extreme glee when Obamacare was passed and her patronage by San Fran Nancy Pelosi, then Speaker of the House.
One such Hub was titled "Sarah Palin Target ID: Gabrielle Giffords". I did not have the "crosshairs" graphic in the Hub but did make reference to Sarah's use of it. Not that it mattered, because no lib ever read much farther than the title, anyway.
The Hub had been published for something like 10 months and had received a total of something like 100 views, give or take a handful.
Remember now, that's TOTAL views.
On the day of the shooting (Jan. 8, 2011, seared in memory), it was the Hub that alerted me to the tragedy in Tucson. I happened to be online and noted (could not HELP noticing) a sudden tsunami of comments on that Hub. 28 such within the first hour, and nearly every one specifically attacking both Sarah Palin and me.
The tone of some of them was...instructive. One remarkable post screamed, "YOU KILLED GAVRIELLE GIFFORDS!!!!!!!" It was probably a typo, "V" and "B" sitting next to each other on the keyboard as they do, but I seriously doubted the commenter had ever heard of our CD8 Representative prior to Jared Loughner's homicidal rampage.
Yes, there were death threats included, both in that first group of 28 and among the comments that followed. Some of the methods by which we (Sarah and I) were to be terminated were quite...inventive.
By 90 minutes into the flood of news coverage--much of which was inaccurate at first, including early reports that Gabby was already dead--I decided to take down the Hub. Not because of the attacks, which included spillover assaults coming in by email, but out of respect for the Gabrielle and the other victims.
I checked with my wife before I unpublished the Hub, though. She agreed; we were on the same page.
Naturally, some of the attackers assumed (they're quite good at assuming) I'd taken down the Hub because of my overweening guilt at being the "direct cause" of all the carnage. I knew they would; that was no big deal.
Some of them also sent gleeful emails crowing over the fact that Google had cached the page and it could still be found and I was going to Hell or someplace a bit warmer Hoo-Hoo! Ha-Ha!!
For 24 hours after unpublishing a Hub, the Stats page still reports the view count hitting (evidently) the cached page. There were more than 6,600 of those.
After it was conclusively proven that Jared Loughner had (a) never paid the slightest attention to any conservative writings in his life, (b) had read and did own a few leftist publications, (c) was nutty as the proverbial fruitcake, and (d) had targeted Gabrielle after doing volunteer work for HER meet-&-greet in 2007--for what he felt was a PERSONAL SLIGHT, I waited cheerfully for the apologies I knew would soon be coming from all those previously agitated folks.
I'm still waiting.
How do we know? Because I am an advid researcher, always looking for facts on a subject. Hence why I said I did not know about all the other names posted, I did not know them or research them
Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001) was a United States Army veteran and security guard who detonated a truck bomb in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995. Commonly referred to as the Oklahoma City Bombing, the attack killed 167 people, injured more than 850 people.,[3] and was the deadliest act of terrorism within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks.[3] McVeigh, a militia movement sympathizer, sought revenge against the federal government for its handling of the Waco Siege, which had ended in the deaths of 76 people exactly two years earlier. He also hoped to inspire a revolt against what he considered to be a tyrannical federal government”. SOURCE-Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh
I have put the link below because there are numerous ideals, such as right to bear arms, that the militias follow to an extreme level.
“Although the far-right Patriot movement had long been marginalized, certain cultural factors paved the way for the wide scale growth of the libertarian or ideological Militia movement. This attitude grew with the federal government's own expansions of powers.”SOURCE-Wikipedia
Ghost,
It can be 10 lifetimes form now, I seriously doubt you will get an apology. Remember Obama accusing the DC cop of being racist without actually saying the words. Then wnated to have a beer summit to talk about things. To this day Obama has not apologized to that cop.
American View, I will only give you this lesson one time so listen closely, Timothy is NOT one of us! We denounce him, Not ONE of us agrees with what he did, The 8 people killed at abortion clinics were denounced by us! Not a one of us agrees with what he or she did!
Muslims hardly ever denounce those becoming extreme in their name..........most of the time they embrace them!
Liberals NEVER denounce those performing violence or extreme acts in their name, They usually make them hereos or professors at the best Univerisities! I believe today there is something like 8 university teachers who have killed people or have been involved in murders associated with the Weather Undeground back in the 60s and 70s, None of them ever served time and have been embraced by the top democrat leaders in the country, Again Obama and Bill Airs, along with Bernadine, ..........just that relationship should cause America to rid themselves of Democrats!
AR,
Give me me a lesson? And to listen to you?. I listen to no one. I rely on my life experiences, researching a subject looking for facts.
Other than McVeigh and the enemies of the United States, No one agrees with what he did. An obvious statement.
If you belong to a militia as your are leading us to believe, just because your group denounces what McVeigh did does not mean he was not strong supporter of mitia. He was and that is a fact. And what does denying mean actualy. IRA denied the majority of the bombings they did. Hamas denies what they do, Al quida denies 1/2 of what they do. Prisons are full of those that deny what they did. The last thing a militia would do would be admit they were happy he did it.
Now do not take that as I believe militias were involved, for they were not. McVeigh and his gumbas were soley responsible for what happened that day.
As for liberals, we all know they prop up those on pedastals that defy the government in any way. They call it patriotism until someone else does it, then they get upset and call them everything under the sun. Why do you think professors and nobodys become famous. There were hundreds of people and failed proffesors that went on lecture tours and made big money by becoming truthers after 911. spewing so much false information it is sickening. But they are embraced by the left, that is until now that they hold the Whitehouse. But they will embrace them again after they lose the whitehouse next year. At least they better lose it
I love how AR thinks that if he doesn't agree with the actions of someone, despite their beliefs resembling their own, and despite things like voting records and who they view as opponents, that he can disown them. The lack of reasoning is comical. That's like saying when someone does something you don't approve of being Christian, that they aren't Christians. Christianity is a belief system, not a system of actions. Oh wait, he did that too.
Game, Set, Match, Tex
Let's be clear here., Tea Party people are ordinary citizens, moms, dads, grandmas and grandpas who, maybe for the first time in their lives, are out there trying to express their feelings and participate in democracy. All the ridiculous examples of violence set forth above have nothing whatsoever to do with this movement. The Tea Party is being vilified by the left because they are afraid of the power of the people. They liked it much better when the silent majority was truly silent. Up and awesome!
TexasBeta, First of all let everyone know I publish your bullshit comments.......you seldom publish mine, do you yellow belly? I am more than willing to have open HONEST debate with you because there is not one subject you can win! Timothy, according to google was a registered republican voter, He also was not a Christian, this is not important except we are tired of libs claiming every right is an extreme Christian, not true!...........lets finish this now, We as Real Christian Conservatives denounce, dislike, have true disdain for what this pervert of society has done!............that being said what do you say about Bill Airs bombings? His wife Bernadine? The other 8 living, working professors in our school system that were part of the Weather Underground and were never punished but embraced and given positions of honor in society by liberals???
American View, no need to get offended, My point was anytime someone doesn't understand another group their first inclination is to blame the far right! I said how do we know and you came back with I do my research? Where is that on Google? (a far left search engine) NYTimes?..........getting my point here? I typed into google acts of violence by libs and almost NOTHING came up, I did the same for pubs and tons of stupid shit came up! I did my research at the library the old fashioned way and tons of stuff was discovered on liberals and their hate filled agenda!
OH and AView remember those militias haven't performed violence or threatened anyone as of yet! .......except possibly that timothy fellow ole Tea Party keeps mentioning? Notice he only has one and a few radical abortion clinic guys?..........I have multiple hundreds from his side!
AR
First, it is impossible to offend me. All I did was to introduce some facts into the discussion between you and Tex, and you comeback with a wise ass response "tell you once so listen up" Hence my response. I do not attack, do not name call, I do not blame though some who disagree with facts I write about say I am attacking or bashing. I laugh because thats all they can say, they cannot dispute facts.
Now if you do not like google, do not use them Here is a link to 15 general purpose search engines. But it is a comprehensive list on many topics so keep the link close
http://www.thesearchenginelist.com/
Now I do not use google exclusively, I use several sites. The more research you do, the more sources you will find that you can go direct to without using a search engine, including government sites and fact check sites. But always keep in mind that there are way more left media outlets than right, so one may have to research a lot before understanding where facts lie on certian subjects.
As for liberal acts of violance, as I stated earlier, one only needs to look at the 60s and 70s, there are tons of them. Now there will not be many finds on search engines for this, mainly because there was no internet yet. It is easier to find hisorical stories than historical facts.
Jared Lee Loughner cited the liberal bible, Karl Marx's The Communist Manifesto, as one of his favorite books; if listing The Communist Manifesto as one of his favorite books wasn't enough proof of his political inclination, one of his friends confirmed his left-wing views.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/01
At worst, liberals try to paint leftward leaning killers as conservatives. They did this with Pentagon shooter John Patrick Bedell, who was a registered Democrat and the Holocaust museum shooter, James Von Brunn, who was an "anti-Christian, 9/11 'truther' who hated the Bushes and 'the neo-cons'".
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/03/05/about-the-pen
http://rightwingnews.com/mt331/2009/06/right_wing_
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-finger-bitte
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/seiu-thugs-beat
http://theantiliberalzone.blogspot.com/2011/01/lef
I think you will like the last one the most. I found these in less than 5 minutes of research. THe search you want to do just needs a little persistance and you will find what you are looking for
AR,
Another great hub and some pretty interesting facts here. Too bad those of the lib persuasion seem to be light in the common sense department. I am so confused by the way they use the tea party as a scapegoat for ANYTHING possible. The tea partiers are a minority, yet the dems work overtime to demonize them!!
Sheri,
Dems attack anyone they consider a threat. You can see with the Repub candidates, how they change their atttacks to the person they think is the threat. First it was Palin, then Romney, then Bachmann, and now Perry.
Sheri the left is becoming more and more evil as the days go by! Did you see Maxine ranting about Tea Partiers going to hell and she said "I will help them get there"
American View, point well made!
Last week Maxine was not listening to her constituants who wanted her to get on Obama. It was a funny video. I talked about iy on my on line show.
AR, did you read what you actually wrote? McVeigh WAS a registered Republican. That is what I said. That is what you claimed wasn't true. I also claimed he was a Christian. You don't personally get to define or speak for the Christian world AR. You are just a dude at home on your computer in some oil laden Arizona town. You don't get to say that you want to get this straight and this is what the Christians think. You are just one Christian. You also don't get to define who is and who is NOT Christian. He was raised Roman Catholic, baptized, was an alter boy...and fell out of church. He professed to being a Christian in a 1996 interview. Upon his deathbed he said he was Agnostic. At one point, he even declared science his religion. He committed the bombing in 1995. Come on dude, this is simple logic. He claimed he was a Christian at the time, so who are you to tell him he wasn't? Can murderers not be Christian? Does sinning negate the possibility to be a Christian? Are you a Christian? Do you sin?
As for the Weather Underground, I denounce them personally...being that they were doing their deeds 50 years ago, but I still denounce and don't agree with their actions. The only one that was ever killed was one of their own when the bomb went off accidentally while making it, and never killed an innocent person, and always tried to make sure nobody was in the building, always sent a pre-evacuation notice and always sent a message as to why a building was being bombed. I get the motivations, though I wasn't alive then. I find myself more supportive of the Yippees than the Weather Underground. I would have definitely been involved in the struggle against the Vietnam War and in favor of civil rights. Sometimes I think that we are really still fighting that battle, that our underlying fight is still on the battleground of the 60s, one side fighting to keep the 50s and the other trying to tell everyone that the 50s were horrible.
American Romance
LET'S NOT FORGET that President Barack Obama called for civility shortly after the shooting. It is now apparent that Obama’s order did not mean himself or any members of Congress of his own party. Somehow the order was meant only for Republicans and Tea Party members of Congress to comply with his order. After all, he is the one ( Barack ‘’ I’’ O bama )who holds the highest office ’’Mr. President’’ in the land today.
Come on AR, the left is getting evil and you example Maxine Waters saying the Tea Party can go to hell? The same Tea Party who held signs of the President as an African witch doctor, have Senators denying the man's citizenship, that he is even an American, that claim he is a socialist Muslim bent on taking our nation down? Are you freaking kidding me? Hello pot, meet kettle.
Tex,
To be fair, look at everything the tea party has been called even before the were on office. Everything from Nazis, jihadiasts, terrorists,and a lot more and lets not forget that tearful speech of Pelosi saying "she lived through the hateful rhetoric in the 70s" insinuating the tea party protestors were responsible for Giffords shooting, which we found out later was not even close.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj8WHtQMb-4
Both Dems and Repubs lob them grenades at each other. I think we can all agree it is time for them to grow up.
TP, hold the phone! I said he wasn't one of us! I said he wasn't a true conservative! Also he claimed science was his religion! In other words he doesn't fit the mold you libs wanted so desperatly! Again you embrace violence from your side and we Conservatives denounce it! BIG DIFFERENCE!
By the way Maxine Waters didnt just say go to hell , She said she WOULD HELP THEM GET THERE! you people are EVIL!
Show me a pic of that African witch doctor! and concerning his citizenship? Trump finaly called him on it! I still don't understand how he became president without showing his birth certificate?? Hell I can't get a book out of the library with two forms of ID
Ah, so he was a registered Republican, voted Republican, but YOU have decided that he isn't a true conservative huh? You are the party gatekeeper right? You are joke. Conservatives denounce the violence huh? You support the abortion doctor murderers. What did your convict pal G Gordon LIddy say, "Shoot them in the head!"? How and when do liberals endorse violence? What did conservatives do in response? They joined more militia groups, JUST LIKE McVeigh. What violent organization are liberals joining? Oh, right...there isn't one. But again, conservatives include Klansmen and Neo Nazis...how are they on violence?
This is a joke and sign of some of the largest hypocrisy anywhere on these pages. And the birth certificate? He showed his bc, just not to you. Why? Because you don't deserve or have the right to see it. No other President showed his to the American people. No other President was a victim of such outright bigotry by people like you claiming he wasn't even American. THEN, you want to play victim? You are a disgrace to grown men and Americans everywhere dude. You have the stones of a 3 yr old acting like that. You can't even man up on a single issue. What a child.
Hitler's racist beliefs, his economic policy, and form of government are all uniquely "Hitler" in their own evil way and not to be carelessly compared to the politicians of today. Many are no fan of the policies of George W. Bush or Barack H. Obama but neither deserve to be put beside the mass murderer of six millions Jews.
As for the KKK, after a quick search, there are both conservatives and liberals that were a part of it. I am not sure we will ever know if one was dominate over the other. I think they just said what was needed to further their ideals. One example was David Duke. He was elected to La. house as a Dem, elected to congress as a Repub, ran for Presisdent one year as a Repub, another year as a Dem.
Tea Party, you don't read well do you? I said he wasn't "CONSERVATIVE" that word has a different meaning to us than it does liberals! And you nor I know if he actually VOTED! lies are lies and truth is truth! Let's keep it that way!
More truth for you, I never gave a crap about his birth certificate! Never wrote about it and never cared except possibly to say if he has it he should show it because of all the questions surrounding it!
And.....more truth I never applauded the abortion deaths! NEVER!
I'm sure there are militias out there but they have NEVER done anything? man up to that!
What violent organizations do liberals join?
Unions! .........see above for a taste of their violence and bigotry!
Environmental protection agency! FBI says they are one of the most dangerous organizations in the world!
Weather underground, ......how many did they maim and kill?.........wanna know where these people are today Party Crasher? I have their file and would love to share it with you! Obama made his first announcement to run as a politician in the living room of Bill Airs? ..................come on goof ball do I need to say more? .....really???
AR - You are showing that you haven't got the ability to be honest. That is sad, because I am sure you have children, people who look up to you, and you present to them the example of being dishonest, consistently and without regard for maturity. How many did the Weather Underground maim and kill? None. Not a single person, aside from one of their own when a bomb went off while making it. So, in answer to your question, none. Not a single person. If you were one who acted like a grown up and actually did research, then you would know this.
Secondly, you are denying a guy who is a registered Republican is a conservative. You right wingers do this all of the time. You claim ideology, and then when those of your ilk fail to live up that ideology, then you just claim that they are not a REAL conservative, not a REAL Republican. You are egocentric as well, as you view your entire party's and religious belief system is at your feet for you personally to determine who is in and who is out. That is a childish paradigm. It doesn't matter that you personally didn't have a problem with his birth certificate. Others that are in your party and on your side, did and do. You just can't claim that your personal beliefs are the beliefs of the entire group. The funny thing is, while you pretend that you are the gatekeeper of such things, you lump in everyone on the other side. For example, every liberal is evil because of how Maxine Waters acted. However, McVeigh is not a real conservative despite him being a registered Republican, because of what he did, and how you don't approve of it. Do you see the hypocrisy in this? All the liberals support the Weather Underground you appear to believe, yet, conservatives get to skate ownership of the Neo Nazis because you don't agree with certain things that they do and believe, despite the fact that they vote with you. You are expected to be a grown man, to stand up and admit that parts of your team are a**holes, doing horrible things. Part of my team are a**holes, doing horrible things. I can man up. You don't appear to have the balls to pull that off. This entire thing started because your hub claimed that conservatives just don't get involved in violence, but liberals ALWAYS do. When I present examples of conservatives getting violent, you disown them, deny, and just can't be a grown ass man, and admit that you were wrong. Your people DO engage in violence. Mine do too at times. You just can't admit it, despite everything presented. It is incredibly childish man. Seriously, don't you have a single shred of shame in your soul?
With regards to all of your "files", dude that isn't healthy. Normal people don't gather "files" on everyone. I think you have a few more "problems" than many of us on this board really know about. Sounds like someone should be maintaining a "file" on you.
Finally, as far as the FBI claiming that the EPA is "one of the most violent organizations in the world", you are flat out lying through your teeth. The EPA is a regulatory agency. They don't have soldiers. They have guys with pencil holders and rimmed glasses who scour numbers all day, every day. SO, there isn't a shred of evidence to support you claim, and even the basic logic of it is ridiculous. AR, I wish I could go another way, that you are misinformed or whatever, but you are just lying out of your ass on this. Like I have said before, if you were a grown man, you'd own up...but you show time and time again that ya just can't, can you?
AV - You are being the logical one these days. I applaud you for that.
I tell ya what, maybe I am being too harsh. Let's start from scratch. AR - Can you admit you are wrong at times and that yes, there are actually conservatives who use violence? Simple enough.
Tex,
We may not agree with the facts of an issue, but a fact is a fact and we cannot change them.They are what they are. No other way to see it, no other way to portray it. There can be multiple opinions on how that fact happened, but it is still a fact and it cannot be changed.
Tex,
By the way, my trach was downsized last week. Doc says if all goes well it could be removed for good in a couple of weeks. Looks like We can get that beer early next year. Take care
You've got my number man. Just let me know if you need anything in the mean time. Glad the surgery went well sir.
Keeping files is sick? for the record most of them are newspaper clippings sent to me by friends, along with an office full of books dating back to the late 1800s, I'm 46 years old and just in the past 5 years have begun to study history in earnest. The more I read the more I hate liberalism...............it is fascinating to me that a history buff as yourself would not get the same reaction???
Back to subject: Susan Rosenberg, member of the WUG and the black liberation armay, (theres another one for your libs to attend) and a group called the Family, she conspired to kill cops, blow up buildings, and staged an armed robbery on a Brinks truck! Her sentence was for 58 years for felony murder and possessiion of more than 700 lbs of explosives............Your president Clinton released her from prison??????
David Hilliard, recently taught at Merrit College and others, stood in front of 250 thousand people, screaming Nixon was an evil man and "Nixon is a evil man!..Fuck that motherfucking man! We will kill Richard Nixon!"
Angela Davis former Black Panther and I THINK part of the WUG was the owner of guns used to Blow the head off a Marin County Judge, ...........today she is professor at Santa Cruz?
I can keep going for hours, you can call me a hypocrite all you want, Timothy McVeigh is as far from being a true conservative as possible!............Do you think any conservative you have ever met would give Timothy a job....much less allow him to teach our youth in a college?
TP I think you are right and the W U G never actually killed anyone except themselves (kinda funny in a sick way) But they so desperately wanted too! they had to show the world who was in control so bad, they could taste it! After all their crimes against humanity, almost everyone became teachers and political activist to this very day! .............where is Timothy? see the difference between your side and mine?
Every faction will have weirdos, We put our weirdos in prison,.............you hire them to teach college? So as you denounce violence starting with Gifford, You encourage it through out your party! From Unions, to black panthers, and many many organizations related, ??
Yes I am wrong A LOT! I am not wrong about the mob mentality and how you libs embrace violence! ....Did you see Maxine Waters speaking the other night and the crowd going crazy? "the tea party can go to hell and I plan on helping them get there" ..........tsk tsk lots of HATE from your side!
Oh Tea Party, Got another stat for you! Since the Seventies, approx 15000 to 36000 white women have been raped by black men every year...........while on average, ZERO black women are raped by White men? So if blacks represent democrat votes and lets say 60% of white men represent conservative values..........well you can figure it out!
AR,
Just an observation here. I am pleased you took the olive branch from Tex. I had a knockdown drag out bout with Tex months back. But by the end we had built a good respect for each other. Tex found out about my health issues during our bout, he offered me his phone number and said he would be here anytime I needed help, just to call him. A lousy person would not make such an offer. We just agree to disagree on certain issues, but overall Tex is a good guy. I am sure you are too
I find there are way to many name callers and attackers on this site. It also seems HP will not do nothing about it despite the numerous TOS violations. Censorship is another issue. If it happens to you, just park those on another site, that's what I do. You will find if you just calmly make your case without resorting to attacking or name calling, no matter what one hits you with, you will find they get frustrated with attacking and move on. I find the attackers are always the same people. They attack because you disagree with them but they cannot show anything to back their position, so they resort to kindergatrn tactics. Why not, they see it on TV and in congress, so they think its OK. But being reasonable will get you quality followers and good debaters from the other side of your issue.
Sorry if I overstepped my bounds here, but just thought you should know
You obviously need to read more about the Rosenberg case. With all of those clippings, you never got into that one? Really? I'd suggest you are a little ill-informed on that one.
The Weather Underground desperately WANTED to kill people? Dude, you are a moron. The Weather Underground sent evacuation letters days before, waited until the building was empty, and then bombed it. You don't send evacuation letters if you want to kill someone. In fact, the HUGE issue with them was that they DIDN'T want to kill anyone. You are ridiculous man. Come the F on! Do a little freaking research.
THEN, you claim MY party is the party of violence because of Maxine Waters? Again, you are a joke! Go to youtube and watch all you chubby old little psychos screaming with the venom of Hitler about Obama not being a citizen, being a secret Muslim hell bent on destroying this nation, etc. THEN, you have the audacity to actually point the finger? What a freaking joke.
AV - This is much different from the debate between you and I. I know who AR is. I know what he does. I know how he will respond to each statement I make. You are a reasonable person who is actually searching for what is true, while this guy isn't. This guy isn't a good guy and doesn't represent good examples of America. We aren't making up. I find him the manifestation of all of the crap we Americans have in our brains. I just like pointing out how ridiculous he is.
Im sorry but tea baggers a racist people who have ideology ingrained in them. They say things based on no fact and talk about extreme how is it american to want to take away all benefits from people who actually need them and keep tax breaks and loopholes for companies that made billions in profit last quarter (yes quarter) alone. Violent the tea baggers plan is to keep America stupid so they can continue with this political mindfuck they like to keep people in. If you are rich or well off than I can understand (kind of) you being on there side but anybody no matter race or background that is an everyday person trying to make it in this hellhole of a society that President Obama inherited from bitch bush you need something way better than tea baggers. Before Obama there was never Obamacare it was health care now that he is in office and they hate the idea of taking orders from a black man (yes it is a race thing with them older white men and woman) they dont want to pass the same laws that have been passed in the previous 2 administrations. Hey you can choice who you want to suppport but to say left people are more violent is crazy or you are to close to the issue to see as stated in my last blog...
Heated about the same coin I see. Every coin has three sides. The left and right, i.e. heads or tails, both are just the surface and represent the far right and far left politics. What matters is between the surface sides. The very thin third-side is the depth and substance where most people stand in politics. Fact is people like you all and I do not start the wars. War has murdered more people in mass than all the scumbags and patsy’s mentioned in this thread. Rich, powerful, humanity-hating beast-tards get us to let our children murder for them.
Funny thing to me is the ongoing argument here is over which side of a gold plated coin is the most damaged. The gold plating represents the lies we are fed which make us argue amongst ourselves rather than realize Rothschild and the like are whom you are really arguing about. Corruption and murder come most from the top. You know the place where all the power and money is. The top where all the stuff is, that’s fought over in the world. Focus on the correct enemy. Stop arguing about crumbs.
Laughing at the lone gunman theory, stopping a single lone gunman will not stop a war. Which kills more? I’ll take a lone gunman over a war any day any time. Chances of survival are better. The answers are in the middle and founded in tolerance. Tolerance is more conservative by nature! War is more liberal by nature. It feels much better to stand against the Sr. Bullies than debate the 3rd grade bullies. America was designed as a Republic not a Democracy not a Dictatorship. I hope my statements help someone reading this to realize there are others that can maintain focus.
AV, I feel the same as TP, I know exactly how he will respond to each issue and each argument! He opposes any and everything when it comes to morals, integrity or doing what is right for this country! He works so hard to trump me yet never comments each time he is trumped!
He said liberals didn't have militias.......I proved him wrong..........not a peep!
He has never responded to what is the most important part of our heated debate...............why do conservatives denounce and despise abortion murders, and timothy yet.......Liberals embrace the same mentality and honor them???..............this is extremely important to the conversation yet he ignores it!
He feels he trumped me today by explaining the underground sent out letters so they would NOT kill anyone! (After cussing me and calling me a dumb F..k) it seems the fact they must have cost others millions in devastation doesn't mean a thing because why? they were making a point??? Now its my turn to say what the f..k!!
So let us all recap!
We have discovered that those claiming conservative relationships in all total are a handful of abortion clinic murders, and not to be diminished Timothy McVeigh who performed a grotesque and horrible crime! I dont remember how many died that day but it was a lot!
We conservatives consider ourselves to be compassionate, caring and loving towards our country and others! We feel voting and courts will reward us those things we need and feel is right!
I don't have to rant about mob ruled unions and the disruption they cause!...see Wisconsin, I don't have to rant about Maxine saying she will help Tea Partiers go to HELL! This type of stuff is a DAILY routine for liberals! Not for conservatives! We are lied about daily on media and by our President! Biden himself called the Tea Party a bunch of terrosist!
TB identifies with the left, He supports the actions of the left! He wants the 50 million number on welfare to increase because he truly believes there are thousands starving in the streets of this nation!
He wants capitalism to die!..........I cannot surmise what his plan is after this happens but I'm sure it's a good one!
He would prefer we shut up and allow him more time to express his views on the mythical global warming issue or talk about how his party eradicated the world of DDT to save wildlife.................never mind over 800,000 people die world wide of malaria, now that DDT has been removed from most of the world by activist claiming to be of progressives movement! ..........or liberals
Oh almost forgot his long rant, where he named all these people,........he never showed signs they were conservative,
TB also said most KKK were conservatives? WRONG WRONG! Democrats have hated blacks for all of history! In the late sixties they realized blacks had voting power and sucked them in!..........look what that did for them? Horrible way they live now and all because of Democrats! If you want to talk racial crap, I got a file on that one also! Give up TB and go back to wooing your liberal leftist buddies and never allowing conservatives to comment on your hubs..........makes you look so much better in their eyes!
I'll let everyone else read and figure out who got trumped. You haven't gotten the taste of your ass out of your mouth yet. You haven't trumped a single point I have ever made a single time on this hub. I literally own you, and whether you know it or not, everyone reading does. Youz my bitch
hahahah it was coming I could see it! and there it is folks! Each and every time when we get to the end this is all he has! NOTHING! typical lib name caller! with his low 80s and a handful of followers he reminds me of Obama ............we are all his bitches!........if they only knew
American Romance, you make an awful lot of assersions about the media and the political persuasions of criminals. I would have enjoyed your article much more if you had sited your sources.
AR--Congratulations on a well written and insightful Hub!
It seems like the same old story, because most conservatives are christians they can't get away with what the liberals do. There is a blatant double standard of course. On a whole the left's guiding principle's is the destruction of society for the purpose of reforming it the way they want it, with them in charge of course!
The bible also says "the wicked will despise the righteous!" WBA
RavenBiker,
The book Demonic, various newspaper clippings a friend sends me, and what I believe on the news..........meaning I don't believe much coming from liberal websites nor CNN, MSNBC, or CBS!.........and I certainly don't believe ANYTHING coming from Obamas mouth!..........hope that helps!...Oh and I offered these as a friendly gesture, Most all hubs are opinion pieces when it comes to politics.........just look at those comments attacking me for proof! LOL!
wba,...........excellent comment! Thanks for stopping by!
Great Hub, great debate, I am a new follower. Thanks.
Thanks Mark! Appreciate the comment and the follow!
I sent an email to the Democratic Chair Woman last week telling her that I, a registered Independent, am really tired of her mindless tripe. Her re-assertion that the Arizona shooting was caused by Tea Partiers makes me think of her as a Jane Fonda in training. What happened to all the Harry Truman Denocrats. How did that once great party get taken over by socialist idiots?
It was taken over by the term ideology..........too bad that ideology is cloaked in darkness and socialism!
I think there is a simple answer to this argument. AR said it earlier, and I believe it was either overlooked or got lost in all the mud slinging.
Conservatives DO NOT CONDONE VIOLENCE. If someone claiming to be a conservative commits a violent act, it saddens and angers the rest of us, just like when the liberals commit violent acts.
The difference? When liberals are violent, it is supported by the left winged media and considered an act of honor or courage instead of the evil that it really is. (In most cases that I am aware of)
Mmargie, excellent comment! Spot on!
rachellrobinson Level 4 Commenter 9 months ago
AR: Great Hub.
Rachel